[pandorabots-general] AIML <-> OWL ??

Wed Jan 2 12:49:59 PST 2008

Actually I read this after my last email here.  A 'subsystem' of my
bot's character is that it cooks.
So I've had to think about this a bit.  "Procedural Knowledge" is also
known as an 'Expert system', one of the first more successful
applications of AI.  You should be able to find many, many examples of
AIML put to this use.  But Perhaps not so much in a chatbot forum.  One
thing that can trip you up is that different disciplines use different
verbiage when they mean the same thing.  The keywords expert system and
AIML should get you started.   P.S. Marcus thank you for the excellent
links ;-)

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m] On Behalf Of Scott Overmyer
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Subject: Re: [pandorabots-general] AIML <-> OWL ??

Along these same lines, has anyone been doing work on representing
procedural knowledge using AIML, and then having a bot converse about
step-by-step procedures (one step at a time, with a "Go on", etc.)?
Maybe I can have my GRA add this capability to Program N.

Cheers,
Scotto...
--
Scott P. Overmyer, Ph.D.
Director, MSIS Program

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Subject: Re: [pandorabots-general] AIML <-> OWL ??

Converting RSS and FAQ entries into AIML both present the same problem. 
Generally, the title (or question) is too specific, and the answer is
too
long.   You can convert a specific FAQ question directly into an AIML
pattern, but the pattern might be so long and wordy that it is unlikely
anyone will ever ask a bot that exact question.

If the responses are too long, the bot will lose its apparent
intelligence
and become a talking encylopedia.   We have done some work in the past
trying to come up with a "narration" tag in AIML, so that the bot can
reply with part of the answer, and then continue if the client says
something like "Go on" or "Tell me more."

More progress is being made on the pattern side.  I wrote recently in
the Alicebot blog about how to use multiple keywords in patterns, in
order to translate overly specific FAQ questions into in AIML:
http://alicebot.blogspot.com/2007/12/multiple-keywords-in-aiml.html

> http://www.mendicott.com/blog/2007/12/aiml-owl.html [Note, original 
> contains many reference links.]
>
> 30 December 2007
>
> AIML <-> OWL ??
>
> Since I posted my original query to the pandorabots-general list in 
> July, I'm beginning to understand the concepts involved a little 
> better, thanks also to replies from this group and others, such as the
protege-owl list.
>
> In a comment to my recent blog entry ("I'm dreaming of RSS in => AIML 
> out"), Jean-Claude Morand has mentioned that RSS 1.0 would probably be

> more conducive to conversion into RDF or AIML than RSS 2.0. He also 
> mentioned that the Dublin Core metadata standard may eventually 
> overtake RSS in primacy....
>
> So, can XSL transforms really be used to translate between RSS and 
> RDF, and between RDF and AIML?? My understanding at this point is that

> talking about AIML and OWL is a bit like apples and oranges.... 
> Apparently the output from an OWL Reasoner would be in RDF? I have by 
> now discovered the Robitron group and am finding that archive to be a
rich resource....
>
> What does this have to do with Pandorabots? I would like to address a 
> brief question, in particular to Dr. Wallace... what do you see as the

> impediments to upgrading the Pandorabots service to include an OWL 
> Reasoner (or in chaining it to another service that would provide the 
> same function)? Surely you've considered this.... Where are the 
> bottlenecks (other than time and money of course)? Is it an 
> unreasonable expectation to be able to upload OWL ontologies much the 
> same as we can upload AIML knowledgebases today?
>
> As I have mentioned previously, one of my interests is creating 
> knowledgebases on the fly using taxonomies. My belief is that quick 
> and dirty knowledgebases are a more productive focus than pouring time

> and energy into trying to meet the requirements of the Turing test 
> (another rant for another day....) Certainly with chatbots there is a 
> substantial element of smoke and mirrors involved in any case.... One 
> can always go back and refine as needed based on actual chat logs.
>
> The next step for me will be to try and convert my most recent book, 
> VAGABOND GLOBETROTTING 3, into a VagaBot.... I would like to hear from

> anyone with experience in converting books into AIML knowledgebases! 
> My supposition is that a *good* book index is in effect a "taxonomy" 
> of that book.... My guess is that I can use the index entries as 
> patterns, and their referring sections as templates... to create at 
> least the core of a knowledgebase. If more detail is needed then a 
> concordance can always be applied to the book.
>
> After that I hope to tackle creating quick and dirty AIML 
> knowledgebases on the fly from RSS feed title and description 
> fields... not in pursuit of the chimera of the Turing test, but simply

> to build a better bot. (Now, I wonder if anyone has ever created RSS 
> from a book?!? ;^))
>
>
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