[pandorabots-general] Clarification

Sun Mar 4 08:19:23 PST 2007

>From your perspective it may seem like a good practice but from mine it is a 
bit redundant. If you only have one <star/> as in:
<category>
     <pattern>CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT *</pattern>
     <template><srai>DEFINE <star/></srai></template>
</category>
I doubt seriously anyone would use <star index="1"> in this case. There is 
no real benefit either way except for convenience or clearification for the 
sake of proper form. If I was programing for use by the rest of the planet I 
might view it differently, but for myself, as a very slow typer, it is a 
waste of time especially when I can go back later with search-and-replace 
and change it all at once if needed. Most of my programs are written that 
way so that if you don't like the way I wrote the program you can use 
search-and-replace globally to change the program to whatever format you are 
use to.

As far as I know I have yet to see any kind of sheet that outlines desired 
best practices when it comes to AIML programing. It is those generally 
accepted but unwritten practices that generate friction in the world today. 
As long as the programer remains consistant in style the ability to change 
things like <star/> into <star index="1"> on a global scale makes it easy to 
adapt the program into a more widely acceptable format whatever that format 
may be. Inconsistency in program formats becomes a problem when global 
changes are not possible and you have to go through the code line by line.

Botom line is that it is a matter of semantics and personal preference. Code 
for personalizing your own bot is one thing; code for publication as part of 
the AIML Set published online is another thing altogether.

>From: "Anne Kootstra" <anne at aiml.info>
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>It is true that <star> and <star index="1"/> are synonymous; however it's
>become good practice to use the latter. This will ensure a uniform approach
>to writing AIML, which in the long run will be more beneficial then the
>immediate benefit of not having to type "index="1".
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>Verzonden: maandag 26 februari 2007 15:22
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> ><category>
> ><pattern> * AND *</patteren>
> ><template> <srai><star index="1"/></srai><srai><star
> >index="2"/></srai></template>
> ></category>
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>You don't really need the first star index. The indexing starts with 2 then
>3,4,5...
>
><category>
><pattern> * AND *</patteren>
><template> <srai><star/></srai><srai><star
>index="2"/></srai></template>
></category>
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><category>
>      <pattern>WILL YOU TELL ME WHAT THE HECK * * * * * ARE</pattern>
>      <template><srai>DEFINE <star/> <star index="2"/> <star index="3"/>
><star index="4"/> <star index="5"/></srai></template>
></category>
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> >Do you mean:
> >
> ><category>
> ><pattern> * AND *</patteren>
> ><template> <srai><star index="1"/></srai><srai><star
> >index="2"/></srai></template>
> ></category>
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:
> >pandorabots-general-bounces+gdubuque=scattercreek.com at list.pandorabots.c
> >om
> >[mailto:pandorabots-general-bounces+gdubuque=scattercreek.com at list.pando
> >rabots.com]On Behalf Of Dekadens
> >Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 12:28 PM
> >To: pandorabots-general at list.pandorabots.com
> >Subject: [pandorabots-general] Clarification
> >
> >
> >Hi.
> >
> >Thanks for the reply to my question about combined patterns and
> >templates, but I think you misunderstood me. I know how to make
> >"Specific" combinations, but what I want to do is make a general one.
> >
> >Litterally a category for * and * where both wildcards can mean
> >anything. I want the first wildcard to be matched ( if there is one to
> >it or to default to the pick-up category) and THEN recognize that the
> >second wild card is something else and match that one.
> >
> >Here is what I mean.:
> >
> ><category>
> ><pattern> * AND *</patteren>
> ><template> <srai>first wildcard</srai><srai>second
> >wildcard</srai></template>
> ></category>
> >
> >Now using my previouse example it might look like this:
> >
> >Human - Go Home and call me
> >
> >Bot - ( matches first wild card ) I am home already and (matches
> >second wildcard) What's your phone number?
> >
> >Thanks for your help.
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