[pandorabots-general] Bot Hosting

Gary Dubuque gdubuque at scattercreek.com
Tue Jan 16 11:17:24 PST 2007


Hi,

This memory restriction really depends upon the type of interpreter you use.
Not all bot hosts load the AIML into memory.  The www.AIMLpad.com site has
an ASP.NET version that uses the MS SQL database for storing the AIML sets.
It can be modified for multiple bots since the database design is structured
for more than one bot.  If you go into the AIMLpad community area of the
site given above, you can try the software as it is incorporated into an
existing web site structure (that is, the microsoft quick start for a
community site.)  This design could scale to any number of bots and any
number of concurrent users.  The code is basically a demo of what is
possible, but it is available for download for free on the AIMLpad home
page. The drawback is finding a host that has a database server available.
The design could be ported to MySQL and Python or PHP or whatever with some
work.  So if you are brave enough to do the programming, anything is
possible!

HTH,
  Gary Dubuque, synthesizing music instead of people...

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> but I wouldn't expect to ever have more than about
> 20-50 bots at any
> given time if even that many.

That's actually a considerable amount.

But don't think about it in terms of how many total
bots you will have.  Think about it in terms of how
many "active" bots you are going to have at any given
one time.  Active meaning how many bots are you going
to have loaded into memory so they are chating
simutaneously.  After a time out period of inactivity
you can always unload the bots.

> really having a small site built on a shared server
> where I have
> unlimited space.

I don't think HD space is going to be the bottle neck
but rather memory on the server.  How much are you
allowed?

To have even 6 bots loaded into memory all with unique
distinct categories the size of Annotated Alice could
require more that a gig of RAM with most interpreters.

> Some friends and I have a goal of creating bots for
> use as fantasy
> role playing characters, which is why we wanted to
> make a bot building
> community outside of the Pandora environment.

Why outside of Pandora though?  You can always access
your bots using Pandora's XML-RPC.  Pandora's uptime
is pretty outstanding to say the least too.

--- Dekadens <dekadens at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you all so much for your input. I think I need
> to clarify better
> what I had in mind.
>
> I didn't really plan on having anything as grand or
> elaborate as the
> Pandora site. I don't even have my own server. What
> I had in mind was
> really having a small site built on a shared server
> where I have
> unlimited space. I'm a member of a small web
> community, and I was
> thinking of making a place where I could host my own
> bot, as well as
> giving the opportunity for some friends to create
> and host their own,
> but I wouldn't expect to ever have more than about
> 20-50 bots at any
> given time if even that many.
>
> Some friends and I have a goal of creating bots for
> use as fantasy
> role playing characters, which is why we wanted to
> make a bot building
> community outside of the Pandora environment.
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