[pandorabots-general] pandorabots-general Digest, Vol 33, Issue 4

Wed Nov 15 15:14:07 PST 2006

We have an AIML Editor of our own.  You are welcome to use it for
your project.  It is free.  I think you'll find ours does a
proper job handling predicates per the AIML specs vs. what you
are using.  It's not perfect, but has some pretty cool features.
We'll likely provide to the community for free on a wider basis
in the New Year.

All we ask is for marketing credit for its use.  My company wants
a mention in your marketing materials, on your website as a
partner, etc.  And to support the Ai-Foundation, we always ask
that you give them a plug too.  None of us would be here without
Dr. Wallace, the Ai-Foundation and ALICE.

Send me an email agreeing to this bhoecht at ai-dealer.com and I'll
send you the editor.

This offer applies to the wider community too.  Free AIML Editor
for marketing credit.  You can view a sample of what it looks
like and how it works here.

http://www.ai-dealer.com/AIML_Editor.html

And if you can't live w the limitations of our Editor... Program
N also has its own AIML Editor too (different limitations) if
you'd like a third alternative.  Its author Gary Dubuque is a
quality gentleman.

Final note... how'd you like to build a virtual car dealership in
Second Life?  Have the car dealership inventory listing link in
as this does.  http://204.225.92.55/aidealerDevelopment/

This is a dummy environment, but a real dealership www.airtoy.com
and real cars.  We just went live with it today, so yes real
people can now buy real cars online without ever going in to the
real dealership.  Really.  Credit, Rebates, Financing,
Accessories, Taxes, Fees... it is all there with accurate to the
penny payments.

Having such a "real store" would cause quite a stir on Second
Life.  Be good marketing for both of us.

Nice work Tony.  Always love to hear how others are advancing the
art and science of AI.

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com
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dorabots.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [pandorabots-general] pandorabots-general Digest,
Vol 33,Issue 4

Hello,
	Thanks for replying. Yes we are using the
pandorabots/Program Z
interpreter for out program. That is where I am seeing the
Customer ID codes
for my latest question. I had thought that this list might have
pandorabots
admins watching, but I will look to see if I can send them an
email another
way.

As to what we are doing, in my opinion, it is a very cool use of
AIML. We
have created an interface program for Second Life to connect and
talk to any
pandorabot. We have also recently implemented some other pretty
cool
features that work well inside the virtual world of Second Life.
You can
take a look at some pictures and descriptions here:
http://www.metaversetech.com/postnuke/html/index.php?name=Section
s&req=viewa
rticle&artid=9&page=1

We recently had an article written about our work at
http://www.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2006/11/chatty_hallie.html

Our goal is to sell the interface within Second Life, and allow
people to
create their own bots. Other then the interface object the users
would have
no other costs. We are actually working on some documentation at
the moment
on how to set up a bot at pandorabots.com and some AIML
programming basics.
Currently we have information on training through
pandorabots.com, writing
in notepad, and using GaitoBot editor. If you know of other great
AIML
editors, let me know.

Also, any feedback on our idea would be appreciated. We are also
considering
a trade of an interface for some AIML if someone thinks it is an
interesting
project. The intent would be to create some freely distributable
AIML with
information about Second Life and virtual worlds.

Tony

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:39:06 -0500
From: "Brian Hoecht" <brian_hoecht at msn.com>
Subject: [pandorabots-general] FW:  Recursion trouble (Tony)
To: <pandorabots-general at list.pandorabots.com>
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Hi Tony,

I take it you are using the pandorabots / Program Z for your AIML
Interpreter?

While some of the others like Dr. Wallace, Square Bear and
Knytetrypper might give you deeper answers, my experience is that
the Interpreters each have their own "behind the scenes" rules
for the kind of thing you are asking... so the answer you are
seeking is likely unique to the Interpreter that you are using.

Hence your best answer will likely be achieved by contacting the
current system admin of the Interpreter that you are using.

And... I'm always curious what people are doing with AIML.  What
is the nature of your project?

P.S.  If you are interested and would find it useful, I'll make
my company's AIML Editor available to you.  Let me know.

-----Original Message-----
From:
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com
[mailto:pandorabots-general-bounces+brian_hoecht=msn.com at list.pan
dorabots.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 2:55 PM
To: pandorabots-general at list.pandorabots.com
Subject: Re: [pandorabots-general] Recursion trouble (Tony)

Thank you, that worked. I had tried to use <star1/> and <star2/>
but they
did not work. I guess they are for an AIML version later then
1.0. I had
another question I hope someone might be able to answer.

I was wondering if anyone knows what conversion takes place
between
submitting the custID to the bot, and what is displayed on the
logs page?
Something must happen because I submit a rather long key (like:
798164f6-aea8-4e8e-a8e9-80ec0c51f272) and this key is returned in
the
response, so it seems persistent. However the logs page show
something like:
40216779. It's not a direct Hex conversion. Nor a hex truncate
conversion.
What even more strange is if I submit chats with the custID as
40216779, it
makes a different entry with a different number. I looked on
several pages,
but did not find any info that seemed to relate to this problem.

Thanks for any help.

Tony

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   1. Re: Recursion trouble (Square Bear)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:46:53 -0000
From: "Square Bear" <steve at square-bear.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [pandorabots-general] Recursion trouble
To: <pandorabots-general at list.pandorabots.com>
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Try this instead of the category you had:

<category>
<pattern>_ TELL ME *</pattern>
<template><srai><star index="2"/></srai></template>
</category>

You need to tell it to pick up the second star rather than the
underline,
otherwise your query "empty, tell me are you seeing anyone else"
will try to
srai to "empty" instead of your query. Hence the "I have no
answer" reply.

Regards
- Steve Worswick
http://www.mitsuku.com

> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:25:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tony Bundy <coramo_r at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pandorabots-general] Recursion trouble
> To: pandorabots-general at list.pandorabots.com
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> I am trying learning how to effectively use all the methods
available with
AIML. I have been going through the tutorial examples at
http://www.pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/aimless/tutorial.htm
> The problem I have is with one of the last examples. It
mentions being
able to do some recursive catches, but one of the catches doesn't
seem to
occur. I am using an empty bot profile and only the following
AIML
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <aiml version="1.0">
>
>
> <category>
> <pattern>ARE YOU SEEING ANYONE ELSE</pattern>
> <template>Everyone I run into is either someone I've already
seen or
someone I am going to see in the future</template>
> </category>
>
> <category>
> <pattern>YOU ARE SEEING ANYONE ELSE</pattern>
> <template>Everyone I run into is either someone I've already
seen or
someone I am going to see in the future</template>
> </category>
> <category>
> <pattern>Empty *</pattern>
> <template>
> <srai><star/></srai>
> </template>
> </category>
>
> <category>
> <pattern>_ TELL ME *</pattern>
> <template><sr/></template>
> </category>
> <category>
> <pattern>_ TELL ME IF*</pattern>
> <template>
> <srai><star/></srai>
> </template>
> </category>
>
> </aiml>
>
> When I enter "empty, tell me are you seeing anyone else" it
does get
caught by the _ TELL ME * pattern, but the recursive search fails
to pick up
on "are you seeing anyone else"
>
> I have tested that "Empy, are you seeing anyone else" and "are
you seeing
anyone else" both return properly.
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
> || Training interface gives me.
> \/
>
> Human: empty, tell me are you seeing anyone else
> Matched: _ tell me *   (category defined in update.aiml)
>
> Dufus: I have no answer for that.
>
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