[pandorabots-general] FW: Recursion trouble (Tony)

Mon Nov 13 12:39:06 PST 2006

Hi Tony,

I take it you are using the pandorabots / Program Z for your AIML
Interpreter?

While some of the others like Dr. Wallace, Square Bear and
Knytetrypper might give you deeper answers, my experience is that
the Interpreters each have their own "behind the scenes" rules
for the kind of thing you are asking... so the answer you are
seeking is likely unique to the Interpreter that you are using.

Hence your best answer will likely be achieved by contacting the
current system admin of the Interpreter that you are using.

And... I'm always curious what people are doing with AIML.  What
is the nature of your project?

P.S.  If you are interested and would find it useful, I'll make
my company's AIML Editor available to you.  Let me know.

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Subject: Re: [pandorabots-general] Recursion trouble (Tony)

Thank you, that worked. I had tried to use <star1/> and <star2/>
but they
did not work. I guess they are for an AIML version later then
1.0. I had
another question I hope someone might be able to answer.

I was wondering if anyone knows what conversion takes place
between
submitting the custID to the bot, and what is displayed on the
logs page?
Something must happen because I submit a rather long key (like:
798164f6-aea8-4e8e-a8e9-80ec0c51f272) and this key is returned in
the
response, so it seems persistent. However the logs page show
something like:
40216779. It's not a direct Hex conversion. Nor a hex truncate
conversion.
What even more strange is if I submit chats with the custID as
40216779, it
makes a different entry with a different number. I looked on
several pages,
but did not find any info that seemed to relate to this problem.

Thanks for any help.

Tony

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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:46:53 -0000
From: "Square Bear" <steve at square-bear.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [pandorabots-general] Recursion trouble
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Try this instead of the category you had:

<category>
<pattern>_ TELL ME *</pattern>
<template><srai><star index="2"/></srai></template>
</category>

You need to tell it to pick up the second star rather than the
underline,
otherwise your query "empty, tell me are you seeing anyone else"
will try to
srai to "empty" instead of your query. Hence the "I have no
answer" reply.

Regards
- Steve Worswick
http://www.mitsuku.com

> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:25:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tony Bundy <coramo_r at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pandorabots-general] Recursion trouble
> To: pandorabots-general at list.pandorabots.com
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii
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> I am trying learning how to effectively use all the methods
available with
AIML. I have been going through the tutorial examples at
http://www.pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/aimless/tutorial.htm
> The problem I have is with one of the last examples. It
mentions being
able to do some recursive catches, but one of the catches doesn't
seem to
occur. I am using an empty bot profile and only the following
AIML
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <aiml version="1.0">
>
>
> <category>
> <pattern>ARE YOU SEEING ANYONE ELSE</pattern>
> <template>Everyone I run into is either someone I've already
seen or
someone I am going to see in the future</template>
> </category>
>
> <category>
> <pattern>YOU ARE SEEING ANYONE ELSE</pattern>
> <template>Everyone I run into is either someone I've already
seen or
someone I am going to see in the future</template>
> </category>
> <category>
> <pattern>Empty *</pattern>
> <template>
> <srai><star/></srai>
> </template>
> </category>
>
> <category>
> <pattern>_ TELL ME *</pattern>
> <template><sr/></template>
> </category>
> <category>
> <pattern>_ TELL ME IF*</pattern>
> <template>
> <srai><star/></srai>
> </template>
> </category>
>
> </aiml>
>
> When I enter "empty, tell me are you seeing anyone else" it
does get
caught by the _ TELL ME * pattern, but the recursive search fails
to pick up
on "are you seeing anyone else"
>
> I have tested that "Empy, are you seeing anyone else" and "are
you seeing
anyone else" both return properly.
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
> || Training interface gives me.
> \/
>
> Human: empty, tell me are you seeing anyone else
> Matched: _ tell me *   (category defined in update.aiml)
>
> Dufus: I have no answer for that.
>
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